On Wednesday, media personality Piers Morgan got into a heated debate with a pro-transgender commentator, who was making the argument that International Women’s Day should be more inclusive and welcoming towards trans women.
During a segment on TalkTV, a British news channel owned by Rupert Murdoch of Fox News, Morgan was speaking with TV commentator Angelica Malin over whether International Women’s Day should be canceled until progressives can make an agreement as to what defines a woman.
Morgan argued that transgender women should be included in the celebrations and that no one should have to justify their self-identification to anyone.
“Why can’t I identify as a black lesbian?” Piers Morgan asked Malin.“If I can identify as anything, without any need to prove I’m actually what that is, why can’t I on International Women’s Day say, ‘I’m Piers Morgan, and I’m a black lesbian?’”
Malin seemed astounded at Morgan’s questioning and dismissed it as “absurd,” adding that “this point kind of ridicules trans people.”
Morgan clarified that he has “respect” for transgender people that have experienced true struggles with their identity and have undergone gender affirming surgery. However, he added that there’s no way for them to truly change their biological sex.
Morgan then added that he didn’t respect anyone who decided that they were a woman on a whim, hoping just to participate in women’s sports, or infringe on women’s rights, adding that he took issue with “mediocre” male athletes transitioning and suddenly “crushing women.”
The two entered into a heated discussion when Morgan said that, while he supports trans people, he took issue with trans women participating in women’s sports. The activist claimed that most biological women “do not give a s*** about trans women in sports.”
However, just a month later, in June, a survey published by the University of Maryland and the Washington Post revealed that only 28% of respondents believed that trans women should be allowed to compete in women’s sports.
The topic has become more prominent in recent years, particularly with the rise of Lia Thomas, a transgender athlete who formerly swam for the University of Pennsylvania and smashed records during her final year of performance. Thomas previously swam for the men’s team and denies having a competitive advantage against her teammates.
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